romans 8 vs 12 commentary

Drive this Hagar out of doors, when once it grows haughty. This wicked FLESH still lives in my mortal body (even a saved person) and I cannot divorce myself from it -- which is what the Gnostics taught. The Spirit effects it, but through the instrumentality of the Atonement. For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body. You can find the best commentary on Romans for … 8. 3. ", That is NOT WHAT PAUL IS SAYING…remember what Paul said in Romans 8:1, "There is NOW therefore NO CONDEMNATION for those who are IN Christ Jesus." Seek peace only from God, not self delusion. Until I bow down at Your throne Yes I, to the end will endure In fact now Paul commands believers…, Therefore (because believers now are "dead to [the power once exerted over us by our old master] sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus" Ro 6:11-note) do not let sin reign in your mortal body (present imperative is a command preceded by a negative = "Stop letting the Sin continue to reign in your physical body!" It is only when we break fellowship with the Spirit that our sinful nature is able successfully to reassert its fraudulent claim on our lives. You get filled with the Holy Spirit and you get run down and you get filled up again and you get run down. Progressive sanctification is not something the Christian may take or leave. To the world--ensnaring, deceitful, and ruinous? Both still represent dead works of sin. First, the Good News: “There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.” The Greek is even stronger, since the very first word is no. Will you proclaim Christ’s governing power, and yet condemn it, and rebel yourselves? But we have no such obligation to our human nature. And it infinitely transcends the mightiest puttings forth of creative power. Romans 12:12 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓] Romans 12:12, NIV: "Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer." Romans 8:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 have spoken of the indwelling of the Spirit of God; now follows an unfolding of the operation of the Spirit within us in a twofold way, firstly as to His leading and the effects of our response thereto (Romans 8:12, 13, 14); secondly, as to the inward witness given by the Holy Spirit, that we are the children of God, and the effects of this, issuing in our being glorified with Christ (Romans 8:15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 , 25, 26, 27). A Christian owes his flesh no such special or extraordinary service as this is. Be careful not to reverse the order or you may find the "tank" runs you over! The reality of their adoption is proved, first, by their own filial feelings; as God's relations and feelings towards us are always the counterpart of ours towards him, Romans 8:15. His usefulness, his happiness, his hope of heaven, are all included in it. By Dr. Leighton Flowers. "For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law, but under grace." 6. The important truth Paul brings out with the use of the present tense is that believers are no longer those who live continually under the dominion of the evil flesh nature. Hodge's Commentary on Romans, Ephesians and First Corintians. We owe no suit nor service to our carnal desires; we are indeed bound to clothe, and feed, and take care of the body, as a servant to the soul in the service of God, but no further. John Piper Oct 27, 2013 1.4K Shares Message. The former view seems more likely. One sin lived in, may shut you out of heaven! The apostle says why in the following verse. The picture was designed to show the odds involved when a foot soldier with a rifle faced a tank. We owe Him the intellect He has renewed, the heart He has sanctified, the body He inhabits, every breath of life He has inspired, and every pulse of love He has awakened. from the COERCION of the FLESH. BibliographyRobertson, A.T. "Commentary on Romans 8:12". How unmindful are even good people of their duty and interest!—, [The best of men find it difficult to “keep under their bodies;” and there are seasons when they are apt to yield to sloth or sensual indulgence: but let all remember their obligations and professions, and labour rather to pay what they owe to the Spirit.]. Romans 8… The solemn obligation of the children of God. It is the life that is ours, day by day. I. In amplifying the first of those considerations, the comparative insignificance of the sufferings of this present state, the apostle presents in contrast the unspeakable blessedness and glory which are in reserve for believers, Romans 8:18. This is fascinating because Romans 8 goes to considerable lengths to emphasize assurance of our salvation, even ending with the phrase that nothing can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus! BibliographyBullinger, Ethelbert William. It is implied that we are debtors to Christ and to the Spirit: there we owe our all, all we have and all we can do, by a thousand bonds and obligations. We are debtors - We owe it as a matter of solemn obligation. In the original it is "Let not sin king it over you." Why? All things, even the severest trials, shall work together for their good, Romans 8:28. This is a consequence drawn from what the Apostle had said with reference to the state of enmity against God, and of the death of those who are in the flesh; and likewise from what He had been showing to be the great privilege of believers, as being not in the flesh but in the Spirit; as having the Spirit of God dwelling in them; and not only giving life to their souls, but securing the future quickening and raising of their bodies. Don't get under a "law". (see note Romans 8:1). And the words lead naturally to Romans 8:1, which begins with the word ‘Therefore’. These afflictions, then, are not only thus comparatively light in themselves, but they are made still more tolerable by the constant and elevating anticipation of the future inheritance of the saints, Romans 8:24, Romans 8:25. He shows us the lifestyle of those who are indwelt by the Spirit. The foundation for Christian living. No; to these, the allies of the flesh, we owe nothing but hatred and opposition. Now God says the "doings" of the body are to be put to death. 28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. Clearly genuine children of God do fall back into sin when their focus turns away from Lord and His sufficiency and onto themselves and to the things of the world. And we don’t owe it anything. "Commentary on Romans 8:12". But even in the believer there will be a cloud across life and an unawareness of all that is available for us unless we meet the condition that is now set forth definitely. We can only affirm that both are taught in Scripture, and we ourselves know both to be blessedly true. The old fear of God, and the old godly habits of family worship and the teaching of children by their parents, are being left behind. "Robertson's Word Pictures of the New Testament". The more we are careful to pay the more we shall be able to pay. - Dr. Taylor is of opinion that the apostle having spoken separately, both to Jews and Gentiles, concerning holiness and the obligations to it, now addresses himself to both conjointly, and, I. Let the text speak for itself and this vital truth becomes "obvious" [as John says] -- this truth is vitally important for modern day evangelicalism, lest one be deceived and believe a lie, die and wake up in Hades to their shock and horror!). ATTENTIVE LISTENING TO THE TEXT: ROMANS 8 Context and Structure: Romans 8 and Romans 5. The believer's own conscience will protest against any such letting go of himself as has been unfortunately found throughout Church history when people have submitted themselves to such ecstatic states that moral judgment and self-control were cast to the winds. Is sinless perfection possible in this life? As believers we need to be aware of the ongoing battle we will have until we see Jesus face to face…our FLESH will never improve…it will continue to give us a "fit"…it is wicked and has all manner of inordinate desires and passions. Your walk of holiness will never be the same! Comment: God's expectation of moral commitment and personal effort by the children of Israel was no less than what God expects of believers today. But they are not redeemed as yet. 6. IV. Broadman Press 1932,33. I remember the picture vividly because it was in color and it showed a tremendously huge army tank bearing down on the tiny figure of the soldier, about to crush him. Broadman & Holman Publishers). This is the opening portion of Paul’s conclusion to the letter to the Romans, the introduction to the moral instruction that follows from the theological presentation of the first part of the letter. It indicates a necessary consequence. First Reading. 10:21; 26:59; 27:1; Mk 13:12; 14:55; Lk 21:16; Ro 7:4; 8:13, 36; 2Co. New International Dictionary of NT Theology. (Moule, C. G. The Epistle of St Paul to the Romans). Prior to our new birth we were in fact "obligated" to the flesh, and had to obey it's desires and wishes! The flesh, that is sin and corruption: and so it seems principally to be understood here in this place. (Morris, L. The Epistle to the Romans. For (or "because" - this further explains the rationale for why Paul commanded them to continually walk in the Spirit) the flesh (present tense = continually until the day we are in glory! Why would he need to give such a warning?, 1Jn 3:8+ - "practices" is present tense = defining sinning as one's way of life. 6:20).”37. "Mark Dunagan Commentaries on the Bible". Romans 8:12. And whereas the affair of suffering persecution was a great stumbling-block to the Jew, and might very much discourage the Gentile, he introduces it to the best advantage, Romans 8:17 and advances several arguments to fortify their minds under all trials; as, First, that they suffered with Christ: Secondly, in order to be crucified with him, in a manner which willinfinitelycompensateanypresentsufferings, ver.17,18.Thirdly,Allmankind are under various pressures, longing for a better state, Romans 8:19-22. We are debtors, not to the flesh. (Percy Strutt.). Not only because, as previously argued, the Spirit is the source of life, but also because all who are led by the Spirit are the children of God. In 5:12-21, Paul contrasted Adam and Christ. Romans 12:1-8 12 I appeal to you therefore, brothers and sisters, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. A soldier may have only one gap in his armor—and the bullet may enter there. That is another thing considerable likewise. Persevere in your faith, and your perseverance will set you apart as a member of the family of God and you will experience what it is to really live in Christ." The love of Christ is the true philosopher’s stone. loans, debts, sums, or rents. 12-13. ABUNDANT LIFE! "Commentary on Romans 8:12". 5:14, 15; 6:9; Gal. Two, because the flesh does us no good. We are no longer "in the flesh" but "in the Spirit." "Peter Pett's Commentary on the Bible ". A debtor to mercy alone "Commentary on Romans 8:12". Dear Soldier of Christ, be prepared, be alert, always be ready for the battle, for your enemy the flesh is relentless, unremitting, merciless, persistent, etc, etc!) Note as well that the way to crucify the old self is to obey the promptings of the Spirit. (see notes 1 Peter 4 :2; 4 :3), And so the believer disciplines himself or herself for godliness, continually seeking to deny the efforts of the flesh to impose its lifestyle on him or her, even as Paul instructed Titus to teach the believers at Crete "For (As an aside this is a great example of Paul's use of this strategic term of explanation. (see notes Romans 1:14), Yes, they were pleased to do so, and they are indebted to them. Colossians 3:5. 2. That is, seeing the Holy Spirit dwelleth in us, quickening our souls for the present, and raising our bodies for time to come, furnishing the one with grace here, and fitting the other for glory hereafter; therefore we ought to live unto God and not to the flesh; we are not debtors to the flesh, to live after the flesh. We cannot…we are debtors and our obligation is to share this life transforming truth. Copyright StatementThese files are public domain.Text Courtesy of BibleSupport.com. 1. Kill it before it kills you; and though it bring you to the grave, as it did your Head, it shall not be able to keep you there”, John MacArthur cautions us - "As one Christian to another, let me warn you that you will be frustrated by your inability to experience the holiness you crave. 3. Live in this and thou wilt die a conqueror; yea, thou wilt, through the good providence of God, live to see thy lust dead at thy feet.”43. "Commentary on Romans 8:12". “Set faith at work for the killing of thy sin. 12. ἄρα οὖν covers the whole argument from Romans 8:12 and proceeds to conclusions as to Christian conduct; but this purpose is interrupted by the thought of the Spirit and the wide bearings of the relation of sonship to GOD. Some would twist John's straightforward teaching, saying it means something else. 2:19, 21; Php 1:21; Col 2:20; 3:3; 1Th 4:14; 5:10; He 7:8; 9:27; 10:28; 11:4, 13, 21, 37; Jude 1:12; Re 3:2; 8:9, 11; 9:6; 14:13; 16:3, There are a few commentaries that are generally accepted as conservative and evangelical which have comments similar to the College Press NIV Commentary that makes the following statement (with which I strongly disagree but am including to make the reader aware of how some commentaries handle the interpretation of this verse), "This verse is a strong affirmation of the real possibility that a Christian can fall from grace and lose his salvation. It does not make any difference whether we are saved or lost…flesh is still just as evil in a saved person as it is in an unsaved person. Paul’s sentence is here defective, for he omits the other part of the contrast, — that we are debtors to the Spirit; but the meaning is in no way obscure. (Ro 8:39, cp Ro 8:30 - called, justified, glorified = you are absolutely secure!) Our FLESH is wicked. We are not debtors to the flesh — We ought not to follow it. "The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge". II. Yet observe: the briar itself is not repressed; it is allowed to develop itself in accordance with the laws of its own nature, but only through the rose. Not from gratitude. All the saints make up one body in Christ, who is the Head of the body, and the common Centre of their unity. How zealous we should be for our Master! https:https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/hmc/romans-8.html. If we all believed this, how much easier it would be to get our Churches into good order! Doesn't your flesh occasionally "rise up" and say something like, "You deserve to do this. LIVING IT . And as the affair of suffering persecution was a great stumbling block to the Jews, and might very much discourage the Gentiles, he introduces it to the best advantage, Romans 8:17, and advances several arguments to fortify their minds under all trials: as -. That is not what Paul is teaching in this passage. Though we cannot pay all, we can at least acknowledge the debt, and, if we cannot pay Him the principal, yet to give Him some little interest upon the talent which He has lent to us, and those stupendous mercies which He has granted to us. “The resources of sin must be cut off: “Make no provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.” Whatever tends to, and terminates in, the sinful gratification of the flesh, is to be relinquished. Because it is a chapter that helps us understand the doctrine of eternal security, it is also loved by regular Christians who would not clam to be Bible scholars. No. He leads me in paths of righteousness for his name’s sake” (Ps. Life in the Spirit contrasted with life in the flesh. "Commentary on Romans 8:12". "The Bible Study New Testament". We cannot do it by ourselves. A holy life without a controlled body is an absolute contradiction; not to be dreamed of for a moment. (Ro 8:13) Do not lose heart beloved, but keep pressing on, and as the writer of Hebrews exhorts, "consider (aorist imperative = Don't delay! The truth is that the only thing that the FLESH has ever done for any of us is to draw us downward toward DEATH. 2. True spirituality is neither entirely passive ("Let go and let God") nor entirely active ("I’ve got to do this all by myself"). (See sermon Romans 8:5-17). They talk about going to Heaven or to Hell as if the whole matter of eternal existence were something alien to our present experience. So much for those that claim, "I know it"s wrong, but I just needed to do something for myself, I just needed to let off some steam.". Romans 4:24) indicates the “ certum et constitutum esse secundum vim (divini) fati.” Ellendt, Lex. Barnhouse - OUR text begins with a therefore, and it is necessary for us to look backwards into the preceding portion in order to understand the foundation on which the truth of the present text stands. I. Romans 8:5-14. Our bodies are the Divine workmanship, and their faculties are of God’s malting and giving. And with the phrase "You will live" in (Ro 8:13) Paul points us to the future…you will persevere and you will possess the fullness of the life that God has given to you for all eternity. Literally apothnesko refers to natural death in which one's vital, life sustaining functions cease (Mt 22:24). (Galatians 2:20-see detailed expository note). 1905-1909. I'm not obligated to all the wickedness of the FLESH any more!" Neither is Paul suggesting that a believer should “Let go and let God”, a philosophy promoted by some who advocate a so-called "deeper life", in which one progressively rises to higher and higher levels of spirituality until sin and even temptation are virtually absent! https:https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/wbc/romans-8.html. Give a certificate of divorce to every sin. A. The quickening of our spirit should lead us to “mind the things of the Spirit.” And the prospect of endless felicity and glory for the body should keep us from seeking its present gratifications to the destruction of its eternal interests. To elevate our conceptions of this glory, he represents; 1. (Expository Dictionary of Bible Words: Regency). The condition of a debtor was full of hardship, but St. Paul rings out in joyous triumph, ‘I am debtor both to the Greeks and to the Barbarians’; ‘Therefore, brethren, we are debtors.’ This indebtedness is not degrading but ennobling, not disheartening but inspiring. 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